SAS Global Forum Ideas
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- 1 Message Center
- 2 A panel discussion on the SAS Macro Language
- 3 Eliminate Tickets
- 4 Voting for Best Paper
- 5 Panel Discussion regarding the continued need for DM-based SAS Access
- 6 Time Conflict between SAS-L/sasCommunity Meet-up and 2012 Town Hall Meeting
- 7 I think that we need multiple presentation levels
- 8 Requests for discussion with specific developers
Can sasCommunity.org be used as the Message Center?
Becky 17:13, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
Great idea Becky. That's exactly what we have in mind for 2010. Stay tuned for more details, and please give us feedback on how it works out. --LaurenH 14:26, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
I liked our use of Linkedin for the 2011 SGF and hope we use it again for 2012, but I would do even more to publicizing that we are using it so that even more would sign up for it and take advantage of the possibilities.--Art T 19:56, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
A panel discussion on the SAS Macro Language
A panel discussion on the SAS Macro Language, past present and future. I would invite: Art Carpenter, Ron Fehd, Ian Whitlock and Michelle Burlew.
Frisco 20:56, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
Hi Frisco, This sounds like an excellent suggestion for 2011. (It's too late to include for SAS Global Forum 2010.) We definitely will follow up on this. Thanks! --DebbieBuck 21:54, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
We are adopting a practice at our SUG meetings that we really ought to implement for SGF as well.
Given the ease of selecting random numbers in SAS, for door prizes as the closing session why would we give out tickets and then select numbers from a bowl?
Why not simply
- assign each registrant a sequential number (starting with 0001)
- order those number randomly
- call off the numbers from top to bottom until you run out of prizes
The random ordering could be as simple as:
data numbers; do i=1 to 4000; x=ranuni(0); output; end; run; proc sort data=numbers; by x; run; proc print data=numbers; run;
Art Art297 03:08, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi Art, Thanks for the suggestion - we're always looking for ways to improve/enhance all portions of the conference. We'll consider this in our planning of the closing session for 2011. Debbie--DebbieBuck 12:51, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Voting for Best Paper
There was a large push this year to take more advantage of social media techniques. Interestingly, we didn't use those techniques for voting for the best papers.
Couldn't we let everyone who attends a session simply text their own evaluations immediately after each presentation?
For example, if we are rating 3 categories for paper 088, those attending that session could be asked to text their evaluation to 1-800-123-4567, with the following in the message: 088 567
where the first 3 digits represent the paper number and the next three digits represent their evaluations on 3 scales, where 1=way below average and 9=well above average.
Art Art297 03:15, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Art. We'll include this possibility in our team review of evaluation/judging methods for 2011 and future conferences. Debbie--DebbieBuck 12:51, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
After serving as a rater for the second time, at SGF 2011, I have to again resubmit this suggestion.
Some of my colleagues have suggested that they don't want the audience to evaluate the papers, but I have to ask: "what, exactly, are we evaluating and why couldn't the audience be the most appropriate evaluators?"
The current evaluations attempt to get ratings on a number of categories, but most are quite subjective and at least one (quality of paper) is typically irrelevant as most (if not all) of the evaluators never had an opportunity to read the papers.
I would suggest, alternatively, having the audience simply rate each paper according to a 100 point scale, where 1=didn't like at all and 100=really worth my time.
That would also relax the need for volunteer coordinators quite a bit. --Art T 23:02, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
Panel Discussion regarding the continued need for DM-based SAS Access
A large part of our community was disappointed this year to see all of the effort SAS has put into EG, with almost nothing observable put into accessing SAS through, say, the Enhanced Editor.
While I'm not against change, and I'm sure that programmers, EG users, non-EG users and managers likely have different opinions, and may even differ amongst themselves I, personally, think that SAS would benefit from hearing the various opinions of key people from each of those groups.
What I would like to see is a panel-audience participation discussion on the topic of where SAS should devote more developmental engergy, with the panel comprised of the above mentioned groups along with key, influential members from SAS itself.
I would think that the discussion could easily fill a 90 minute slot, would be quite well attended and, if they are interested, could provide invaluable direction to SAS, quite possibly quell some unfounded user concerns and, in any case, help us all understand each others viewpoints on the topic.
Art Art297 03:25, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Hi Art, We are planning on more panel-audience participation presentations at SGF 2011, and I think this topic is one that would definitely be of interest to many users. Thanks for the suggestion! This kind of input on papers and topics - especially early in the planning process - is very helpful. Debbie --DebbieBuck 12:51, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Time Conflict between SAS-L/sasCommunity Meet-up and 2012 Town Hall Meeting
Would it be possible for 2012 to move the time slot for one of these gatherings so they don't conflict? I really wanted to go to both, and think there may have been at least some overlap in attendees. Thanks!
We scheduled the SAS-L/sasCommunity/SAS Discussion Forums' meetup on the last night, as that was the only time available on my schedule (and I was one of the presenters). When we scheduled it, there was no conflict!
As far as I know, the town hall meeting was never included on the schedule. When I found out about it I, too, wanted to attend. However, I couldn't, as I had to go to the meetup early to ensure that all of the equipment was functioning properly. Good thing I did, as we had to bring in the Caesar's techies to replace all of the equipment.--Art T 22:53, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
15JAN2012 Update: Nancy (and anyone else interested), For SGF 2012 we have checked to ensure that there won't be a conflict between the SAS-L/sasCommunity.org/SAS Discussion Forums' meetup and the Town Hall Meeting. There won't be a Town Hall Meeting at SGF 2012, so that particular conflict shouldn't exist. The 2012 SAS-L/sasCommunity.org/SAS Discussion Forums' meetup will again be held on the last night, Tuesday, at 6 pm (just before the give back party).--Art T 10:38, 15 January 2012 (EST)
I think that we need multiple presentation levels
Soapbox: I don't think I'm alone in thinking this: too many of the 2011 presentations were at too basic of a level. Many, of course, need such a level. However, similarly, for many others, such basic level presentations are a waste of time. As such, I suggest that we expand the sections to include basic and beyond basic levels (for example, a basic level coder's corner and a more advanced coder's corner). Since some people would want to attend both, I'd suggest cutting the number of presentations in each down (I'm not sure if 50 -- 50 would be the correct split) and scheduling them accordingly so that they don't conflict with each other.
Art T 23:46, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
- There are additional considerations in restructuring papers presented. Do all of the 'invited' papers need to be 50 minutes? Sometimes a famous and valued presenter has 15 minutes to say and the rest is all fluff. Can there be invited 20 minute and 10 minutes speakers? Maybe award them with half the conference fee. -- Earth Humanitarian Foundation, Incorporated 04:49, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
I believe for this year. Some of the invited speakers actually received a 20 min slot as opposed to the usual 50 min slot.--Murphy Choy From Singapore 15:19, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
Combining the two ideas, at least for a more advanced coder's corner section, I would allow the presenter to indicate how much time they need. Some advanced topics can be covered in the current 10 minute time limit, but most advanced topics (I think) would require between 15 and 20 minutes.--Art T 22:36, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Requests for discussion with specific developers
This request, while late, is actually for SGF 2012, although it would be applicable for any Global Forum.
When we have a new release, like we have now with 9.3, there are typically a number of things (calls, functions, options, etc.) that don't have sufficient documentation. I'm currently dealing with such an option, namely the intervalds option.
It would definitely be useful, and provide yet another reason for people to attend SGF, if we had a way to indicate that we would like to speak with someone who is an expert/developer of the call, function, option or proc that we are trying to understand and utilize.
It could be publicized in the personal agenda scheduler as, say, "Requests to talk about a specific topic". --Art T 17:59, 7 February 2012 (EST)
Art T 17:59, 7 February 2012 (EST)