Talk:Create an Article

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This article appears to be non-editable. It should explain that a category can include "local" content, just like an article, and that such local content is especially appropriate if it explains the scope and purpose of the category.


Correct about being non-editable. This page was locked after there were repeated problems with users editing and renaming this page to create new articles instead of following the instructions on this page. WRT the suggested changes, we can temporarily unlock this page if you would like to make them. Just let either Phil or me know. --Donh 11:17, 10 June 2008 (EDT)


Suggestions:

  • Add a sentence like "Please think carefully about the title of the article - it is inconvenient to change it later."
  • Add a link to the list of categories.

I'm not sure what the first comment means by '"local" content'.

--JackHamilton 21:17, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

Local content is that which is entered directly into the category's edit box, in contrast to content in the pages and subcategories which have been tagged with the category.--Howles 01:15, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


Jack, thanks for the suggestions. How about augmenting the first bullet as follows (please feel free to edit this directly on this talk page):

  • Just type a title in the box at right. The title for your article is like the page name. Please make sure to pick a descriptive and detailed title for the article as it can be inconvenient to change it later.
    • The title for the article is case sensitive so make sure to use appropriate case.

Howard, two things:

  1. I know you pointed out a link to the Wikipedia style for caps. Please add a link to that if you think it will help.
  2. Thanks for clarifying what local content is. See below for revised wording.

NOTE: A category can include local content (text which is entered directly into the category's edit box, in contrast to content in the pages and subcategories which have been tagged with the category). Local content is especially appropriate if it explains the scope and purpose of the category.

--Don Henderson 01:56, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


Don,

Your changes look good to me (better than my original suggestions, but I suppose that's the point of a collaborative community).

On a different topic, if I just click on "Create Article" without entering a title, the results are not good.

What I'd like is a way to create an article without specifying the title first; my idea of what the title should be may change as I write the article. --JackHamilton 22:44, 26 March 2009 (UTC)


Agreed on the point of a collaborative community J.

WRT not entering a title, I know. But I don't think that anything can be done about that. But will research again.

And, you actually have to enter a title. What I do for that is use a sub-section of my discussion/talk page for things as I am working on them. Perhaps that would be an alternative option for you.

--Don Henderson 23:09, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

Wording changes made as listed above. The section to create a category was removed (it is available in history should there be requests to add it back) in order to minimize categories being created when an article is more appropriate. The logic behind this was that for experienced wiki users they know that creating a category just involves prefixing the name with Category:. --Don Henderson 02:05, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

I don't know how easy it would be to do, but I'd like a multi-select list on the article creation page that shows all the currently defined categories. A user could select one or more of the categories, and they would automatically be moved into category tags. That would probably improve the quality of the category tags. You would want to leave the ability to add categories with tags. --JackHamilton 22:45, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

There is an extension for this that is on the list to evaluate. But as I said on another page, the list is long and most/all of the work done to support the site is a volunteer effort. There are several precursors to getting something like this implemented, e.g.,

  • cleaning up the current categories
  • assessing the performance impact
  • and so on

--Don Henderson 23:00, 6 April 2009 (UTC)


Do not Create an Article for Employment opportunities here

A list of better places to create articles is needed on this page.

If someone wants to list an employment opportunity in our Opportunity Registry, they need to use the form on the Employment opportunities page, rather than this page. However, this page does not tell people of the other, better, places to create an article of a particular type. Since this is the front door article about creating articles perhaps it should mention we have other helpful pages that will guide people to create certain kinds of articles using templates. If somebody just uses this page to create an article, they might not be fully aware of how a wiki works and simply copy the text from their wordprocessor to the (blank) web form and think the wiki will know how to interpret their text. They might then be disappointed with the results. It might save work copyediting poor job postings later, too. - Cameron (talk) 18:05, 9 May 2014 (CDT)

Great suggested. Implemented several of the main ones. Also added a link to the sasCommunity:Titles article. --Don Henderson (talk) 08:20, 10 May 2014 (CDT)